McCain: Pastor Rod Parsley is a ‘truly great leader… moral compass, spiritual guide’
Pastor Rod Parsley: “we get off on warfare”
Another extremist Christian nutcase is endorsing McCain. McCain says he is “greatful” and “very honored” for Parsley’s “leadership and guidance.”
Parsley guiding McCain. Here’s what kind of guidance Parsley gives McCain:
“Mohammed received revelations from demon spirits, not from the living God. America was founded in part with the intention of seeing this false religion destroyed. … We were built for the battle, we were created for the conflict, we get off on warfare”
With 1.8 BILLION Muslims in the world, McCain will have his work cut out exterminating all of them.
And so, McCain gleefully accepts the endorsements of those who advocate genocide, as long as it is done in the name of Christ, presumably.
It sounds like Parsley is moving in to stage 3: dehumanization.
William,
Electorally, nothing Parsley or Hagee has said is really going to matter, because you can be as bigoted as you like as a pastor, so long as your enmity is focused on gays, atheists, muslims, or liberals; and there are no political repercussions.
Say that America should reflect on its own terrorist past? Hell hath no fury like an American scorned.
Hezbollah, Hamas, and Mahmoud “Wipe Israel of the Map” Ahmadinehjad have all expressed interest in an Obama presidency. We to believe Obama is interested in the extermination of the Jews, then, because someone endorsed Obama he may not necessarily always agree with.
Do you have evidence of Obama smiling and praising Ahmadinehjad while accepting his “endorsement”?
It seems clear that christian evangelicals are a mindless militant sort and are dangerous to humanity. I’m beginning to think they should be dealt with in the harshest possible way. Expulsion from society at least, and outright extermination if they don’t behave.
It seems clear that Muslim extremists are a mindless militant sort and are dangerous to humanity. I’m beginning to think they should be dealt with in the harshest possible way. Expulsion from society at least, and outright extermination if they don’t behave.
There, JTF, fixed that for you.
Idiot.
Right. The Christian extremists. As evidenced by the thousands injured by IEDs planted on the roads leading to Planned Parenthood clinics and the highjacking of our courts to allow husbands to wrap their wives in a full body blanket and stoning them to death. Oh, and blowing up the churches of everyone who doesn’t believe the same as them. And traveling to other countries to seek training to fly planes into buildings filled with civilians.
But other than that they are exactly a like. Good point. Way to support genocide. It’s nice to see your fellow commies don’t disagree.
Religion generally sucks
christians are too cowardly to do any suicide bombing, they kill from afar using cruise missles, f-16s, and attack helicopters. they demonize and torture anyone who isn’t like them, and lie to the world about their threat. however, if islamists were invading and forcefully occupying my country, i’d be the first set a road side bomb to kill them. william is less then right, religion not only sucks, it’s based on lies, all of it. george w bush is someone world renoun for his lying ability. so much so, that all you idiots are afraid of a bunch of raghead bombmakers trying to defend their country. if there were no religion, the middle east would a much better place.
Generally, yes. But compared to countries run by agnostic/atheistic regimes they are far preferable.
If you say that your rights are God-given then your rights can’t be taken away by a government. Anything given by the government can be retracted. If you say that they are given by a piece of paper then they can be amended.
I’ll take the former. Historically, it’s been working out better than the culture where everybody tramples each other every year to run around a square and cut their children’s heads open with swords.
But other than that they are exactly a like. Good point. Way to support genocide. It’s nice to see your fellow “commies” don’t disagree.
No, they are different in what stage of the process they are at.
Brian, I’m curious about Aaron’s CC. That site disappeared before I was blogging much. All that’s left now is this fragment, with just a few cryptic clues.
Oh, and JTF, you prove yourself a bigger idiot every time you post.
Why don’t you go fellate Markos Moulitsas or something?
Different stage, eh? That might make sense were it not that Christianity is older than Islam.
How about they haven’t caught up with us yet.
Really, listening to you all rail against Christianity is like listening to a fucking 14 year old complaining that Mom is making them get dressed to go to church on Sunday.
There’s no fucking comparison. Yea, I have to wait until noon to buy beer on Sunday but I’m not beheaded for drinking it. I’d say you should pick a side but it’s pretty easy to see that you already have. The wrong one.
Brian,
Please refer to the link in my original comment.
I’d say you should pick a side but it’s pretty easy to see that you already have. The wrong one.
Wow, in the interests of civility I am going to refrain from addressing you in the language you truly deserve, for now. But to assume that the only option is to “choose sides” is not necessarily supported by the evidence. Anything is “easy to see” if you conflate unwarranted assuptions with bogus inferences.
I agree with you that Islam is more backward than Christianity, but that is due at least in part because historically it has not done as good a job of silencing those that “rail against it”.
Also, the idea that rights emanate from “God” is not intended to invoke some authority, but merely indicates that human rights are inherent to natural liberty, as opposed to the previous order of things that assured authoritarian control through divine right. Any regime that denies liberty of conscience, be it atheist, agnostic, muslim, or christian, or whatever, is acting in contradiction to these secular, enlighenment values that American liberty is dependant upon. But merely saying that rights emanate from “God”, does not necessarily preclude having them stripped through coercion any more than saying they emanate from “nature”. The current administration provides more than ample evidence to support that.
The right to criticize policies or beliefs is just as important to the preservation of liberty as the right to uphold those same policies and/or beliefs.
Is it ok if I don’t take a side? Since Judaism is older than Christianity, it must be more valid, correct? The Ancient Egyptian Religion is older than both so that must be the correct one, right? Don’t you think it’s time that reason and rational thought prevail over ancient legend and doctrine predating the Dark Ages? Do we really want our leaders who control weapons capable of destroying the earth to take “spiritual guidance” from such legends rooted in the supernatural that predict world destruction as if it’s inevitable?
Why isn’t America on the forefront of world leadership that endeavors to rise above superstition and belief in an ‘invisible man in the sky’? Answer: because Christian evangelism with it’s megachurches, mass media and indoctrination prceedures are ruining the country and turning America into mindless authoritarians, bringing a war on science, education, rights, and all who don’t believe ‘the word’.
So governments that eschew religion in all its forms should be the best, by your thinking? So the paragons of enlightened leadership who control nuclear weapons would be China and the old Soviet Union? Their human rights records are so much better than ours, especially with that god-awful Guantanomo!
I find it amusing that you, William, can seriously argue for that, given that you are one of the enlightened leaders of academia. How you can possibly elevate the USSR and Communist China (as well as other lovely organizations as the Khmer Rouge and the current military Junta in Myanmar) as better alternatives to “Christian” leaders.
What I find most amusing is your painting of Christian leaders as “authoritarian”, conveniently ignoring the authoritarian regimes that were based on secular philosophy. Strangely enough, most of the people liberated from the tyrannical regimes in Eastern Europe have returned to religious affiliations once prohibited by forward-thinking atheist autocrats.
So perhaps you should study some history before you start tossing stones from your glass house.
Maybe you should look at the comparatively secular Scandanavian coutries like Sweden, whose education, economy and standard of healthcare is far superior to that of America. Not surprising that Americans are so scientifically and educationally challenged due to the agenda of homeschoolers and evangelists
Captain Brainstorm:
Your argument only makes sense if one assumes by saying “eschew” you mean “prohibit.”
The United States is based on secular philosophy, and the government is required to “eschew” (not prohibit) religion.
I think the shoe may actually reside on the other foot re: who should study some history.
I agree with him to a certain extent. Islam is garbage.
I agree with him to a certain extent. Islam is garbage.
So is your irrational superstition, but if you know your place, and don’t get uppity (e.g. get it in your mind to kill people or legislate via your beliefs), it makes no never-mind to me if you believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster or the Ceiling Cat.
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Eschew is to avoid, and they recommended “avoidance” of traditional religions unless they were recognized by the Soviets or sanctioned by the Chinese government. “Prohibit” is not a correct characterization of what the USSR did and what the PRC still does today.
Sweden is approximately 80% religiously affiliated, most of whom belong to a Christian Protestant church (the Church of Sweden). So if you think the whole state is secular, you’re a doofus. Consider that 77% of the country is Christian, those people who believe in the imaginary are electing their leaders. Run for the fjords!
Sweden and Finland have a church going population of 4% compared to the US 44%.
Finalnd ranks near the top in school science education, the US ranks below average. What does that tell you Cap’n? Tells me that educated people are far less likely to believe in the supernatural and religious superstition.
Time grants a certain amount of legitimacy assuming that the religion holds up in the long run. I don’t have much respect for new religious sects that pop up on the scene.
Overall, the Christian framework has allowed for liberty to grow. Not always the case but in the long run it’s not as bad as the others. No human or animal sacrifice for ceremonies, at least the ones I’ve seen.
If all religions are evil then I will side with the lesser evil. Some people need that external structure in their lives because they don’t have the internal structure to keep themselves civilized. I’m not going to take that away from them and there is nothing more pointless than Evangelical Atheism.
Agreed about evangelical atheism.
I don’t have much respect for new religious sects that pop up on the scene.
Protestanism is an example.
Overall, the Christian framework has allowed for liberty to grow.
Yes, it did wonders for the Native Americans in the 18th and 19th cent.
They weren’t innocent in everything. Indian tribes warred with each other. Nomadic peoples clashing with different tribes over natural resources. In their own self-interest they sided with either the French or English given the situation. To the point of siding with the British against the American Revolution.
Victors, spoils, etc. I didn’t say it was perfect. I said “overall”. Providing the most for the most.
Captain Brainstorm:
Yes, you are right. I should have said “oppress” rather than “prohibit”.
Brian:
Evangelical Atheism?
Yeah, that’s really sweeping the nation.
On the other hand, the idea of non-believers standing up to point out a lot of the ridiculous misconceptions many people have (e.g., atheism=communism; i.e., religion-good, atheism-bad) is necessary and proper.
Christianity may not be “as bad as the others” in your opinion, but that does not give you or anyone else the right to choose someone else’s religion for them.
Intellectual criticism and genocide are not morally equivalent.
William:
From the State Department website:
Seems you pulled that 4% number right out of your ass. Or you’re getting it from an imaginary being. Sure you’re not a member of an irrational religion? Liberalism, perhaps?
Genocide was the final solution offered in the comment directly under yours (the 5th comment in this thread). But then again, JTF is just trying too hard to be outrageous most of the time. As stylish as off-the-rack outrage is on teh internets.
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