McCain wins the Nashville Townhall debate. Bonus! Missing SNL Video resurfaces!

My observations…

John McCain hit Obama with solid body-blows on his Freddie-Fannie connections. John  McCain has a better health-care proposal, sticking to nice free-market solutions (although I was troubled by John’s overextended homeowner buyback, allowing those who failed to follow historical and correct buying rules to keep the homes they couldn’t afford in the first place).  And on foreign policy, Obama self-evidently was ‘green behind the ears’. Nice to hear him admit it.

Uh-ah-bama. Where was his youthful vigor? He looked like a clueless automaton. Where John McCain spoke directly to the people, Obama was reciting his talking points line-by-line. He was boring, frankly. And who invented the computer? That’s great, O! Al Gore invented the internet; according to Obama, DARPA invented the computer. What a maroon.

Tonight, John McCain won the debate. He was the only man who demonstrated he had the independence and strength to take on everything that’s broken in Washington and on Wall Street. John McCain had a clear plan for improving the lives of Americans — keeping them in their homes through his American Homeownership Resurgence Plan. From Barack Obama, we heard half-truths and contradictions between what he says and what he has done. He said he supported offshore drilling but has opposed it for months. He talked about tax cuts but he voted for higher taxes 94 times and promises increased taxes on small businesses. He talked about reducing the size of government but has proposed hundreds of billions of dollars in new government spending. Tonight, Barack Obama had an opportunity to level with the American people, but instead all we heard was more of the same.”

Democrats cry about mudslinging…when that’s all they’ve ever done. It’s nice to see some mudslinging coming from the good guys for once. Obama, in this debate, slung first. And caught a face full on the return. But, John, where was the mention of Ayers, Wright, Rezko, the rest of the crooks, liars and black liberationists that Obama’s collected in his short time in politics? (Sorry, I’m not counting his ‘community organizing’ stint as real political experience..that sort of Saul Alinsky gamesmanship is more radical than deserves the sobriquet ‘political’.)

Oh, more lefty mudslinging…the left-leaning LA Times called Sarah Palin a monkey. What would happen  if…?

Oh, speaking of mudslinging, and unfair playing fields, recall the kerfuffle over the missing Saturday Night Live video? Jake at PW’s Pub found it living on a lefty blog, where they were crying about it’s awful bashing of poor Democrats Geroge Soros, Fannie-grabbing Barney Frank and Nancy Pelosi.

Remember, it had been yanked because supposedly Soros didn’t care much for it…after all, he owns the Democratic Party, and how dare the little people at SNL insult him? It disappeared from YouTube.

snagged rescued it and hosted it on my own account. It’ll be up for…how long? Who knows?

Enjoy!


Also blogging the debate…HotAir (Ed Morrissey opines “McCain won, but he didn’t score a knockout by any stretch of the imagination. Is this a game-changer? I think not. It may help narrow the gap a little, but I think the two men are pretty evenly matched in these debates. I wouldn’t expect a knockout in the last debate, either.”

I disagree, Obama lost because he lied. You can’t give undue credit to lying liars, even if that’s the norm in Washington. So much so the norm that lying is outstanding only if you don’t.


18 comments:

  1. William, 7. October 2008, 23:59

    McCain wins debate… as reported by the McCain campaign… HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

     
  2. Jeffraham Prestonian, 8. October 2008, 0:00

    I wanna know: How much is this imaginary fine McCain’t conjured from thin air?
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  3. Jeffraham Prestonian, 8. October 2008, 0:01

    Maybe Drudge’s poll will be different than every other poll I’ve seen, tonight. It might agree with Rusty.
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  4. Jeffraham Prestonian, 8. October 2008, 0:04

    NBC’s focus group of undecided Pennsylvania voters had the Illinois Democrat winning by roughly a 60-40 split. Frank Luntz’s focus group, over at Fox, showed undecided voters leaning towards Obama because of his position on health care. CBS’s focus group of independents had the Democratic nominee winning the debate at 39 percent to McCain’s 27 percent, with 35 percent of the respondents saying it was a tie. Greenberg Quinlan Rosner, a Democratic polling firm, had a focus group of undecideds leaning to Obama by a margin of 42 percent to 24 percent.

    Meanwhile, SurveyUSA interviewed 741 debate watchers in the state of Washington, 54 percent of whom thought Obama was the “clear winner” compared with McCain’s 29 percent. That same polling firm had the first debate as a tie. In tonight’s survey: 42 percent of respondents said McCain was too forceful.

    And the CNN focus group of undecided voters in Ohio had the margin at an even wider spread: Obama 54 percent to McCain’s 30.

    Boo-hoo-hoo! Obama will concede tomorrow!

    :lol:
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  5. Mickey, 8. October 2008, 6:06

    McCain/Obama win, America lost.

     
  6. serr8d, 8. October 2008, 6:35

    Mickey, you’re right.

    Not politically, of course, but right in the sense that there’s no real winners coming out of this presidential election, especially in the subset of those of us who value personal freedoms over social, government-sponsered programs. Democrats, who love being coddled by their daddy big government, will find that it’s a bit late in the game to beat our dead-horse economy, to fill their needy needs.

    Oh, this, I didn’t catch last night.

    Obama says health care is a right. Obama must think we’ve still got money or something. I think more basic rights will have to be addressed first, if we can’t stabilize our bursting bubble(s): food, water, shelter, and a deep latrine. Protection from hungry animals (from those fleeing the starving cities) may be important, if worse-case scenarios play out.

    American people lost out a long time ago. ‘A beginning is the time for taking the most delicate care that the balances are correct‘. Lyndon Johnson’s Great Society comes to mind. That’s a skewing factor that set much of our problem into motion.

    Socialism, entitlements, freebies, whatever you want to call ‘em. We fed the beast, now it’s coming back for more and more, and it’s getting bigger and bigger. We shouldn’t have ever gone there, at least not to the degree that we did.

     
  7. serr8d, 8. October 2008, 7:06

    Heh. I just read Jeff Goldstein’s post-mortem, including a comment to Ed Morrissey, who I quoted above..

    Jeff Goldstein: “Either Morrissey has been drinking too much, or I haven’t been drinking enough.”

    After tonight’s debate, the American public will be convinced that healthcare is a “right”: “individual gun ownership”? Well, that’s something we can talk about.

    McCain let Obama trample his dirty little socialist feet all over the Constitution and didn’t once stop to tell the little poser to take his shoes off.

    As a result, the black marks he left behind will now become part of a “living” document. Interpret at will!

    God help us all.

    Well-spoken, that. We’ve problems, people. What are our problems?

    Obama’s sheeple.

     
  8. Jin Rudd, 8. October 2008, 9:00

    I think “Ghost Rider roared down Main St last night and left us all in a state of shock. I’m still a coverted Democrat with a left leanin Liberal wife. Pray for me please.

     
  9. William, 8. October 2008, 9:09

    CNN: people polled thought Obama was the more intelligent person by 57% to 25% and expressed his views more clearly 60% to 30%.

    In a way, these numbers are not surprising. Obama has degrees from two Ivy League schools and was president of the Harvard Law Review. McCain went to the Naval Academy and came in 894th out of 899 students in his class.

     
  10. tgirsch, 8. October 2008, 9:23

    Ahh, Republicanism: Where you have a right to life, but no right to be healthy once you’re alive…

     
  11. Number 9, 8. October 2008, 9:54

    Obama has degrees from two Ivy League schools and was president of the Harvard Law Review.

    And you have a Ph.d William. Neither you or Obama understand the solutions to the problems in America. Marxism is not the answer.

     
  12. CSG, 8. October 2008, 10:36

    I’m going to be real honest here and say that I don’t think you completely understand the foreclosure situation, nor do most of the rest of the people who complain about it. You say:

    “although I was troubled by John’s overextended homeowner buyback, allowing those who failed to follow historical and correct buying rules to keep the homes they couldn’t afford in the first place”

    Sure, this is true of some of the homeowners. Many homeowners were offered houses that were too expensive, but the the majority of the homeowners who have been foreclosed on in the past year aren’t new homeowners. They are homeowners, like my husband and me, who successfully paid their mortgage on the very same house for many years (20 in our case). We raised our children in that house. We watched our house payment double as the value of our house decreased. Due to other uncontrollable situations, including chronic illness, damage done by hurricanes, and a death in the family, we had to cash in all of our assets and one of us lost our job. We were told we could refinance our house to get lower payments and a little extra cash to help us through the tough times. Only the times got tougher and although we are getting back on track, we can’t pay our mortgage. Our house payment went from $750 (which we paid on time every month for 20 years) to $2300 a month. Now we are both working overtime and extra jobs while our kids are left with various relatives. Our house is for sale, but we’ve been foreclosed on at least four times, only to be given another chance immediately before our house was auctioned off.

    My point is that, yeah, we should have paid more attention to what an ARM was. We should have made sure our mortgage was insured by FHA. But we thought since we were dealing with Countrywide, we were protected. We could afford our house before. I can’t help but help like a victim, but at the same time, I don’t want a bailout. I just want to be given a chance to refinance at a lower interest rate and I want to know that the company that is doing it isn’t going to rip me off.

    Of course, of the two plans, neither of them addresses the issue appropriately. But Obama’s plan just scares the hell out of me.

     
  13. SOS, 8. October 2008, 12:31

    Excessive liberalism has done its share of damage, in more ways than one. There is no question about that.

    However, let’s not forget,

    When liberals said, hey, this Bush guy is just like Hitler, it was BDS, BDS, BDS.

    No matter how many times he broke the law, BDS, BDS, BDS.

    They said, “Bush thinks the Constitution is just a goddamned piece of paper”.

    BDS, BDS, BDS.

    They said, “Stop the imperialist wars.”

    They heard, “We MUST have war”. Then they were arrested.

    They said, “Torture is illegal”. They were called terrorists, and they were arrested.

    They tried to document law enforcement abuse as representatives of a constitutionally mandated free press. They were brutalized and arrested.

    Now, Bush stands prepared to turn the guns of the U.S. Army against the helpless citizens of a systematically bankrupted nation, with Sarah Palin waiting in the wings to finish the job. Of course, it doesn’t look like The People will allow that. I just hope they won’t allow a “President” with a 70% disappoval rating to cancel the election. We can always hope and pray that the military will back The People if Darth Cheney tries to enslave us from his undisclosed location.

    When the innocent people go to jail, that’s not “personal freedom”. That’s something else.

    And that’s no BDS.

     
  14. tgirsch, 8. October 2008, 12:38

    Serr8d:

    Man, I want to watch the video, but the video is several seconds behind the audio, rendering it unwatchable. Is there no better-quality version out there?

     
  15. tgirsch, 8. October 2008, 12:39

    P.S. They both lied. Quite a bit, actually.

     
  16. tgirsch, 8. October 2008, 14:06

    Much better video quality here

     
  17. serr8d, 8. October 2008, 18:07

    CSG, I too had a 30-year mortgage.

    When the time came to refinance, I chose a fixed rate, with a 15-year term, paid extra points to get the lowest rate available, and wound up with a higher monthly payment. But there’s no rate adjustments, no stinkin’ baloon, and this box will be paid for (!) in just a few more years.

    Sure, I could’ve taken an ARM, a nice bundle of cash and ridden the white horse. But, innately, I knew better.

    If it seems too easy, it probably is.

    Always be prepared to work hard, try to not take the easy road. There isn’t one, really.

     
  18. Jeffraham Prestonian, 8. October 2008, 18:21

    When the time came to refinance, I chose a fixed rate, with a 15-year term, paid extra points to get the lowest rate available, and wound up with a higher monthly payment.

    That was smart. Probably the cheapest money you’ll ever see. Good on ya.
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