Say Hello! to “ACORN” Scott
You’ve seen this guy, Scott Levenson, spokesman for ACORN.
There’s only one other mouthpiece that was as insincere, unbelievable and, frankly, so deserving of blogger vitriol. Or a punch in the mouth.
Cleveland, Ohio, one voter, 72 registrations.
For only 72 cigarettes?
Hey, he’d get 72 virgins from some sources!
C’mon, Baracky, at least give the kid a pack of smokes. Least you could do.
Or, just invite him into the meetings with ACORN that you promised would occur right after your election, during your transition…you remember, when you promised to invite ACORNholers to help shape your presidential policy?
Maybe you two could share a smoke break, between those important strategy sessions.
crossed from home
So… how does this work?
I sign up Mickey Mouse, give the guy a pair of ears, and he gets to vote?
Or Tony Romo. “Hey man, just wear a Cowboys jersey… they’ll never know the difference!”
Lazy, dishonest registrars hardly equal vote fraud.
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When it’s ACORN, a known and repetitive abuser, also an Obama supporter and donor; and after all the Democrat’s weeping, wailing and gnashing of teeth about Florida and Ohio in 2000 and 2004 respectively, then yes, it’s a very big deal.
Part of the ‘payback is a motherf*cker’ meme that they’ve earned from 8 years of unrelenting BDS.
yes, it’s a very big deal.
So you say. However, you haven’t explained to me how fake Mickey Mouses and Tony Romos actually get to cast votes (which WOULD be vote fraud, and a very big deal, indeed).
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What, none of the winger braintrust here can explain how this ever ends up as actual vote fraud? A surprising turn of events! What will we tell the children?
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JP. It’s voter registration fraud.
Fraud is never legal, JP. Try is sometime and see for yourself.
JP. It’s voter registration fraud.
Well, it seems rather intellectually dishonest for you to Photoshop a photo equating this registration fraud to “72 votes for Obama,” yes? Yes. Yes, it is.
It assumes that filling out a registration form, fraudulently, will result in an actual vote, which, in the vast majority of cases, does not happen. Because registrars committing fraud do not go unchecked, and the metro, county and state election offices weed out the silly bullshit.
ACORN turned in the flagged, suspected-fraudulent registration forms to the county election board, as required by law.
No one but you seems upset about Mickey Mouse being registered to vote. That leads me to believe that you’re despondent enough about the outcome of this election as to ignore common sense that a pre-schooler can parse, in under a minute.
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JP, if people game the system, we all lose.
Oh, and there’s a ? on my pshop. Of course that kid won’t vote 72 times; likely he won’t vote at all. But ACORN representatives bribed him with cigarettes and dollar bills!
Troubling. Even Democrats *those who aren’t wearing blinders* are troubled.
You Obama Camp cuddlies? You don’t care.
But ACORN representatives bribed him with cigarettes and dollar bills!
Thousands of “volunteer” registrars are “bribed” with doughnuts, pizza, movie tickets, etc., every election cycle. At any rate, it’s not illegal or improper for an organization to actually pay people to register voters.
That some people aren’t ethical enough to actually do the work should surprise no one.
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Oh, and there’s a ? on my pshop.
Along with a few “!”s, as well… one, right after “voter fraud,” which you already owned up to as being an incorrect phrase to use in this instance.
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But it is illegal to pay people to register to vote.
And it’s voter fraud, JP.
Remember back to your mathematics classes in, say, the 6th grade (when you weren’t being stuffed into lockers that is).
A set is a large group; which may be comprised of subsets of smaller groups. The subset of crimes that includes ‘registering people to vote, multiple times’ and another subset ‘registering people to vote by offering payments’ fits neatly in the greater set ‘voter fraud’. Which in turn is a subset of ‘fraud’ in general; which is in turn a subset of ‘Democrat’s normal political strategies’.
No matter how you look at it, it’s voter fraud and it cheapens the votes of everyone participating legally.
But it is illegal to pay people to register to vote.
And it’s voter fraud, JP.
I don’t think so. You’ll have to point me to the appropriate statutes, there. It doesn’t make any sense at all, if you think about it.
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No matter how you look at it, it’s voter fraud and it cheapens the votes of everyone participating legally.
Not if those registrations fail to translate into votes cast.
Guess what?
All these jokers are caught in record checking on the election board level.
The biggest catch? Duplicate registrations by older people, who can’t recall if they voted in the last election.
It’s not fraud, and it doesn’t culminate in additional, improper votes cast in the election.
Again, pre-schoolers can understand this.
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JP. Google is your friend.
This is from the HELP AMERICA VOTE ACT OF 2002, and each state has it’s own laws as well.
SEC. 905. OTHER CRIMINAL PENALTIES.
(a) Conspiracy To Deprive Voters of a Fair Election.–Any individual
who knowingly and willfully gives false information in registering or
voting in violation of section 11(c) of the National Voting Rights Act
of 1965 (42 U.S.C. 1973i(c)), or conspires with another to violate such
section, shall be fined or imprisoned, or both, in accordance with such
section.
(b) False Information in Registering and Voting.–Any individual who
knowingly commits fraud or knowingly makes a false statement with
respect to the naturalization, citizenry, or alien registry of such
individual in violation of section 1015 of title 18, United States Code,
shall be fined or imprisoned, or both, in accordance with such section.
(slams door shut and walks out)
I have no problem with prosecuting those who broke the law.
What I have been saying, and continue to say is that fake registrations do not equate to fake votes. In fact, it’s not even close. Nearly all votes cast that have ANY questions regarding validity are set aside as a PROVISIONAL ballot. And a vast majority of provisional ballots are tossed (generally because they don’t add up to enough ballots, total, to change the outcome of the election, anyway).
That’s because both of the major parties have gotten better at Election Day challenges, and network technology weeds out a lot of duplicate and bogus registration data MONTHS before Election Day.
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Sigh.
I see that your point is, since no harm was done, there should be no penalty of law.
Problem is, there is a law(s), and there is penalty; ACORN is a serial offender, and finally they are getting called on the carpet.
They don’t have a blank ‘get out of jail free’ card just because JP says so. The laws are written down. They have lawyers who can interpret those for them.
If they don’t like the laws, then they can register a bunch of new voters to elect representatives to get the laws changed.
Wait…
I see that your point is, since no harm was done, there should be no penalty of law.
You must have missed where I said, “I have no problem with prosecuting those who broke the law.”
Try again.
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Fine. We agree. Case closed.
Let’s go and nail ACORN to the wall, then!
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So…. I’m lost. What are you accusing Obama of doing, again? Is he stealing the election or not?
Also did you get permission from William Ferrington to copy his photograph? Copyright infringement is a crime, too.
“Let’s go and nail ACORN to the wall, then!”
You haven’t demonstrated that ACORN “knowingly and willfully” gave false information or conspired to give false information in taking registration.
All you’ve pointed out is some people gave false information, which happens all the time, in both parties.
As JP pointed out, pre-schoolers can understand this.
I’ve also yet to see anything about it being illegal to bribe or pay an individual to register, in good faith.
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There are cases moving through court. We’ll see what shakes out.
“in good faith”.
We know what the Obamabots have ‘faith’ in, JP.
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There are cases moving through court. We’ll see what shakes out.
Oh, you guys get more pussified by the day!
I remember when you guys would be crowding courthouses and statehouses, honking horns, shaking fists!
Et tu, Beelzebublicans?
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“There are cases moving through court. We’ll see what shakes out”
LOL
Nothing of consequence to the election is going to shake out. But keep trying to find recruits to help you “hang ACORN from the nearest tree” if it makes you feel better.
Was that the metaphor you used, or did I get it wrong?